The second "sun" has been discovered, but can we find another civilization?

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Kimmo Huosionmaa

The second "sun" has been founded, and then we are thinking about the possibility to find the life from planets, what might orbit this star. And here we are facing the thing, what is the problem of life hunting in the world. The thing is, that life doesn't mean the necessarily same thing, as the intelligent life. The intelligent life at the universe is the thing, what is fascinated us during the history.

The reason, why we are thinking about the change to find another civilization from the universe would be that we would not be alone if there would be some other civilization. But this scenario would also be the most terrifying thing, what we can think. One reason for the SETI program is that somewhere in our subconscious want to find out we would like to find out, who was a god, the mysterious and powerful creature in holy books in many religions. This thing is very fascinating and also fearing question, what mankind has ever faced.

Intelligent life is different from the term "life". Even if the founded star would have a solar system, and there would be a planet in similar trajectory with Earth, that doesn't necessarily mean that there would be animals. The vegetables don't need animals for growing and making the seeds. Also, those vegetables can be actually bacteria or cells, what lives in oceans.

But if there would be some kind of intelligent life form, that would not mean, that those hypothetical intelligent humanoids would have a reason or will to answer our messages. The intelligent lifeforms are an interesting and tricky question. If we would find another intelligent species from the universe, there would be the situation, what we have hoped and at the same time, we would face the thing, what is the most feared in the history of mankind.

The thing, what we are hoping is that those humanoids would not be similar to us. If they act like Europeans in America, it would make a very bad thing for mankind. Here we are thinking about the situation, that it would take Earth to control and force us to act like slaves. In some speculations, humanoids would park the giant Dyson's sphere to orbiter of Earth, and threaten us with antimaterial weapons. Those weapons could destroy entire Earth in second. And those giant spheres would be camouflaged as the small planets.

But then somebody has asked, why humanoids would not contact us? There could be two very interesting reasons for that. Maybe they are afraid some other aliens, what is hostile to them. And that's why they are silent because of the aliens afraid that this another alien would shoot them away with their Death Star.  Another reason for being silent is offered that humanoids would like to observe us and how we would increase our civilization.

As you see, this kind of things is only speculations until we find another civilization. And in that case, another civilization can be at the same technical level as we are. Or they can be far more advanced than we can ever imagine. If we would find some UFO:s or alien bodies, and we could isolate the cells from that craft or body, we could imagine, what kind of solar system would their home. But in fact, there are many questions about this thing. one of the major questions is, could this kind of spacecraft only taken to the AREA-51 or some other military base, and then hidden in some secretive room.

 Sometimes I have thought that maybe those rooms are sterilized for covering the existence of human being. This is only speculation. And in fact if military forces have taken UFO in custody, they would not tell that thing to the great public. If we would want to find UFO:s we must notice that most of the Earth is covered by water, and that would be the great idea to look for the hypothetical humanoid spacecraft from the deep oceans. But this things are only thoughts or imaginational speculations, where could be found some extraterrestrial objects if they have existed. And maybe those crashed alien crafts have been taken in hands of the military from the Roswell incident. But there is no proof that the objects what have been taking from Roswell have been extraterrestrial.

Why we are afraid of artificial intelligence?

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Kimmo Huosionmaa

The reason, why we are investigating artificial intelligence has partially the same origin with  SETI-program. When we are thinking of humanity and intelligence, we must say one thing. We are alone in the universe if we think the knowledge, what is shared by using public channels, and this means that we are feeling lonely. One of the reasons, why we are creating the intelligent- or pseudo-intelligent computers is, that we want to create the alien. The species what is an outsider for our community, and we hope, that this species would tell us, are we wise or something, what we would not want to hear.

One of the biggest problems with the human race is that we are living in the lonely planet between the galactic spiral nebulae. This means that we have quite a few stars around us.  And that could be the reason, why there is no other civilization hanging around. This thing lets us be alone on our planet. And this could be one reason, why we are killing other humans. Without outer enemy or civilization have a chance to fight together. And some scientists believe, that if we can find another civilization, would that cause the end of the wars between humans.

But this is not the only reason, why we are looking for other intelligent species. We, humans, are strange species. We have our social and religious code of behavior, and somehow, we are trying to find somebody, what justifies us and tell us, what we should do. This is one of the reasons to create a computer, what is intelligent. That machine would tell us, how to save our planet for the next generations.

And this is the reason, why we are afraid of artificial intelligence and humanoids. We, the human race are the most intelligent species on our planet. This thing is told for us in the schools, and religion gives us the right to take what we want from nature. If we are atheists, we would explain our superior right to nature because we are so intelligent.

But at the same time, we are afraid, that we can create something, what has superior for us, and that is the reason, why we have or we want laws, what is controlling the genetic engineering. The reason for that is we don't want to become less intelligent than our children. Who wants to ask advises from own children? When we are parents for some person, we want to be more intelligent and own more skills than our children.

And that same thing makes us afraid of artificial intelligence. We are afraid that someday the machine tells us, that we are doing things in the wrong way. We don't want to hear, that sometimes we are wrong. If somebody makes wrong decisions, we normal people can slip to our position, and say, that we have not known about the thing. When we are thinking about democracy, we don't see anything wrong that the person, who promises free gasoline to the tank would get the position as the head of the state. When that person makes mistakes, we can say, that the fault was because of that politician.

We cannot accept the truth, that we have elected that person to that position. In fact, the most part of the price of gasoline comes from taxes, and that's why free gasoline makes that the taxes would grow in some other product. Those taxes would give money to the state, and that's the reason, why they must be collected. And if the taxes from gasoline are not collected, must that money get from other products.

The new kind of combination of cosmos and theology

David Hardy's vision of asteroid ark
could be seen as the intelligence cruiser
(Picture 1)

Kimmo Huosionmaa

The new era of theology allows us to think anything that we want about the God. And we can connect our own ideas to those thoughts. This doesn’t mean that everything that we say and write has theological acceptance. But we can connect our thoughts about those things to other thoughts, and present also radical theories about the religion. In some of the most radical scenarios, the early Christians began to pray together for giving the God message to incarnate into those groups.


This would give ideas for some very fascinating scenarios, what have been seen in some SciFi series. In those series, the UFO will be tempted to some area, and then the military would shoot it down. The idea of the early Christians would be same, they would call the God to the middle of themselves, and then they would set the trap for him. In this part of the text, we must think, that maybe the God is actually a humanoid, what uses ”nobody” the human-shaped robot for intelligence missions and that technology allowed him to avoid the trap. This is one very nice theory for ”who is the God”. But we might ever proof is that theory true or false.


Of course, we can someday make contact with another civilization, but even if we would ask that civilization if they would know the guy, who claimed to be the God. But even in that situation we cant be absolutely sure, is that distant civilization actually the God, what we always pray. They can also answer that they are that thing, but this civilization can tell the lies to us. And at the first, we must make contact with another civilization, what is the very problematic thing. Because if we make contact with another civilization, we must be very careful, because that civilization might be hostile.


In the SETI-program the most important thing is to make a contact with other civilizations. And this will make that project extremely dangerous. Because if some very highly technical and powerful civilization will notice that it wants our planet, we would have problems to stop them. In many TV-series, the Aliens would land to our planet and begin to fight. But those super civilizations might not want to make ourselves the slaves. They might come near to our planet with some interstellar cruiser, and then they would open the fire with antimatter cannon to the Earth. This might look like the asteroid arc, but this version is made for combat.

In this scenario, the very technical civilizations have SETI-probes, what might seem like asteroids. If this imaginational spaceship wants to make recon missions in some planets atmosphere, it could drop very much small-sized drones to the operational area, and that equipment could be covered by ice, what can be suitable for the heat shield. Melting ice would be uncovered very sophisticated automated robots, what can look for marks of intelligent life on some planets. In this scenario, those humanoids might have own SETI-program, and they have the technology for long-term spaceflight.


I Don't know why nobody ever mentioned this thing, but the aliens might have the intelligence spaceships, what seems like asteroids. Those things are not even in some movies, what are made by George Lucas. The reason why some intelligence ship might look like the asteroid is clear. The builders of this device would want that it would not disturb normal life. Its mission should be Stealth, and even if it would look like an asteroid, that imaginational cruiser might powerful weapons like antimatter cannons, what it could use in defense and offense. This is only the writing about thinking the very complex thing, what is called ”religion”.


We all know that all of us have a different think about the religion. For some persons, religion is only a way to make philosophical writings, but for some else, the God could be aliens from another solar system. And for those people who say that there are not humanoids in any star system, I will give one question. Do you often spend your holidays at some other star? We know that there are billions of stars in the Universe, and we might ever be absolutely sure if there is there some other intelligent species in some other solar system. If those humanoids would be at some other galaxy, they might be harmless, because of the long-term travel time. But of course, they can make an artificial wormhole, and come here by in one minute. This is only theory.

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The problems of SETI-program

Kimmo Huosionmaa

SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) program is one of the most dangerous programs in our planet. Even if we haven't get contact or signal from extraterrestrial intelligence, the telescopes might get it in next night. Or they can get contact beyond 1000 years. Some people think that waiting for a contact is like waiting for a train or something like that. SETI program is not so simple because we can't know when the first message is coming.

Or does it come in our lifetime? When we are talking about that project. If we will get the signal from other civilization, but we might ever take contact to those civilizations. They might be so far there, that we ever can't message together because the civilization might be in Andromeda galaxy. That proves the existence of alien civilization, but that doesn't mean that this civilization has ever meanings for us. That civilization would be so far, that even if they jump in their UFO:s right now, our sun would be turned a red giant before they arrive.

Problems of SETI program is that if we will get contact to other civilization, we might get under attack. But if we use the right technology we can hide our existence from aliens. We can cover our entire planet holograms, what makes humanoids to believe that our civilization does not exist. And of course, radio telescopes might use as a gigantic ECM-system, what makes our planet seem like there will not find any interesting. The system will be sent back waves to humanoids transmission, that they can’t see our planet's surface with radar and they can’t get repulses in their telescopes.  

That radiation makes the radio waves or their echoes weak, that they can’t go back to the transmitter. Or otherwise the signals what will be sent back to humanoids would be so powerful that they would think that this will be gigantic super earth, there will be no life forms exist. But this scenario is pure fiction if published information is true.

But everybody knows that federal authorities are not talking true all the time. SETI is one of the most complicated missions on Earth science community. If you want to investigate extraterrestrial civilizations you have nothing where to start. There is not even one single message what is proven that is coming from another star. If somebody believes extraterrestrial intelligence, that does not mean that he or she believes little green men, or why that person wouldn't believe that some people might have green skin. There is one great “if" in those scenarios.

If somebody has put the genetic what causes photosynthesis in the flora to human DNA, that will make the human skin transformation to green. But what kind of technology that speculative humanoid civilization might have. They might have the technology to create “wormholes", but the problem with wormhole travel is that that kind of stuff will need two black holes, what will put resonate to same frequency, and after that those black holes must be separated and another will pull to the place, where that civilization wants to travel. That will take very long time for that civilization, and success of that project can see until the trip is done. That’s why aliens must be sure that there is something interesting.

Otherwise, the trip is made for nothing. And it can take even thousands of years. But there is always artist’s freedom to use imagination about other civilizations. They might have gigantic Dyson spheres, where could be floating “island” in the middle of that colossal ship, what might be the size of a planet. That island would be in the area, where is not gravitation field, and that area might use for production, what needs absolute zero-gravity condition. There might be nano-technological and biotechnological research areas, where they create nano-robots and other that kind of stuff.

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