Could extremely advanced aliens build their own universe?

What kind of hypothetical alien supertechnology could it be? Alien megastructures like Dyson spheres could be impressive. Dyson sphere is a theoretical megastructure. Created by Dr. Freeman Dyson. That sphere is a giant ball that surrounds an entire planetary system. This kind of sphere is a theoretical megastructure. 

That sphere allows that civilization to use 100% of their star’s energy production. That is one technostructure. That SETI program searches. But could there be something more interesting? The Dyson’s sphere. Makes it possible to create the hollow singularity. The idea in that kind of system is that.

The sphere’s shell has three layers. The antimatter system detonates antimatter on both sides of the middle layer. That antimatter explosion. Or annihilation. pushes the ball's center layer.  A very dense. Could that even have enough power to turn the center layer of that ball into a singularity? That is unknown to us.  And that can make it possible to create a baby universe in the large universe. This thing can make civilization immortal. They could form their own universe. 

In our universe. In the model of the Matryoshka universe. That is one model of the multiverse. Multiverse means. The universe is one of many universes. The other universes can lurk in black holes. The idea of the Matryoshka universe is that. The universe is an infinite number of structures. They can be in different spaces. Or in different dimensions. That is a very interesting model. 

The size. Of that dimension can be small. If. We look at them from the outside. 

And this means. Those super aliens' UFOs can transport entire universes within their structure. Those hypothetical aliens could live in another dimension. If. Those theoretical aliens have a black hole in their craft. And there could be another universe in that craft. This kind of craft. It could be. A very. Small-looking thing. But if we jump in that craft. We would jump into another universe. And that kind of thing. It could be cooler than anything. That we ever imagined. 

Time dilation makes it possible. To create a model. About an immortal civilization. If. A civilization lives in a black hole. That thing cannot save our hypothetical civilization from destruction. 

When the universe expands enough. This. Causes black holes to be destroyed. But ultimate time dilation in a black hole causes an idea. That. This civilization can use black holes to transport themselves or information about their DNA to the past. In this text, I presume that aliens also have DNA. 

But the Matryoshka universe. That bases. A model in which black holes pack information. If. Black holes really can contain the universe. That means that even our body can be a quantum-sized universe. But what if we were in that universe? We would see it as big as our universe is. This causes an interesting thought. What if we were in the body of some gigantic creature? This is the thing. That makes the Matryoshka universe so fascinating. The intelligent aliens that can create that thing could live in our rooms. They could live in quantum-sized universes in quantum-sized black holes. 

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/baby-universes-black-holes-dark-matter/

 https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/relativity-physics-immortality/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Did ancient Greek philosophers believe in aliens?

The fact is that those ancient philosophers believed in gods, and some more- or less scientifical writers transformed those gods of mount Olympus into aliens that landed on Earth a long time ago. In the same way, some people believe that Plato's Atlantis was some kind of alien base. But the fact is that the "alien base" can mean the base, that used some kind of extraordinary methods or weapons. 

The thing that supports the "alien base" theory is that those people in ancient Greece didn't know genetics and aviation so they cannot imagine things like the UFOs. There is a question did some see some of those gods fly. The story of Icarus is telling about the hero, who flew too close to the sun, and that can feed theories of ancient UFOs. But there could be also other versions of that kind of theory. 

But we know that there is no visible evidence of some alien astronauts on the Greek Mount Olympus. But the explanation for that thing is simple. Somebody believes that the "real" Mount Olympus was somewhere else like in the Himalayas, some Arctic island, or maybe that "real" Olympus was the mountain of the mythic Atlantis island that could be an island that have been detonated. 

So was the Atlantis the ancient Greek version of Port Royal, the capital of Pirates? If that thing is true, that explains why the mythic Atlantis is not very often mentioned. 

So could the volcano of Thera (Santorini) or possibly the fallen volcano of Island Tenerife the original Mount Olympus. We can think that the alien stories are only stories, but the question is do we believe them. There is the possibility that the Atlantis was some area on some island. And that the Atlantis was a secret place and that name was not commonly used in the Mediterranean area. 

Let's start to think about the possibility that a place called "Atlantis" was the capital of pirates. There is the possibility that the mythic "Sirens" were ancient pirates who used swimming suits that were made of catfish skin. And who used acoustic weapons made from the skull of whales?

But then we must realize a couple of things. The god means a creature that is superior to others. So there is the possibility that the gods of Olympos were people who had some extraordinary skills. Maybe things like parabolic mirrors are making a very big impression on people, who are not seen even fire yet. 

When we are thinking of the stories of the people with lizard skin we are forgetting that the skin of the catfish is suitable also for protective clothes like swimming and diving suits. And the things like the "sing of sirens" might be formed by using the skull of some whales. 

There are air channels in the whale's skulls that are called the melon. The purpose of that organ is to strengthen and aim the sound of the whales' sonar. And the melon can turn sound so strong that it will cripple the prey. So maybe mythical sirens used the sound that was made by using the whale skulls. 

https://bigthink.com/the-past/aliens-greek-philosophers-history/

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren_(mythology)

Upper Image: https://bigthink.com/the-past/aliens-greek-philosophers-history/

https://artificialintelligenceandindividuals.blogspot.com/2022/05/did-ancient-greek-philosophers-believe.html

Aliens and game theory

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Mathematics is the universal language. 

In the science fiction novel "Contact" by Carl Sagan,  the human race will contact aliens by using mathematical formulas. The fact is that mathematics is the universal language. The pi is the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter. That number is about 3,14. But the fact is that pi is an endless decimal number. 

So that thing is universal. And it could be the key to communicating with aliens. But before we are starting to believe that communication with a hypothetical alien civilization is easy we must accept one thing. The aliens might not use the 0,1 or system or decimal system as a binary system. 

We use our decimal system because we have ten fingers. But what if we have 11 fingers. Would we use the numeric system that has the 11 and after that comes 10. That number is the mark that this point in number straight where the fingers are ending. So if the aliens would have three fingers in each hand they might use the numeric system. There the number 10 comes after number six.  So why do we have that number 10 (ten)?

And the new series of the numbers begin. But why our hypothetical aliens would not use either binary system? The reason for that could be that. The aliens don't need the binary numbers anymore. That means they have used quantum computers so long, that they forget the binary system. But then we can return from those hypothetical aliens to the "real aliens". The fact is that those aliens must separate the signals that we send from the natural signals. 

We hope that the aliens have a similar way to think as we have. There is the possibility that aliens are like intelligent tardigrades that can put themselves to hibernation. Or they might let their body die during interstellar flights. And after that, they would just clone their bodies. In some visions, the intelligent aliens would live in perfect singularity with computers and technology. 

That means that the alien cities could be the intelligent systems that are communicating with the electromagnetic fields of the nervous system of that hypothetical species. That means the aliens would not need the keyboards and other things for that communication. This kind of computer network system can use technical telepathy which bases the sensors that can detect the neuroelectric actions of that hypothetical species. 

Can we find the answer to the question for rebelling AI from the game theory?

Why aliens do not answer our calls? The answer could be that they feel that the answer would not benefit them. So how can we make aliens interest us? The answer could be that we should somehow show that we have something to give also for aliens. 

The game theory is the key element in nuclear strategies. The idea of that theory is that every single species are maximizing their benefit. This is the reason hermit crabs allow smaller crabs to live with them. The hermit crab will protect the smaller crab from the other species.

But the role of the smaller crab is to entice other predators for hunting it. And those smaller predators are offering easy prey for hermit crabs. The other thing is that the smaller crabs are cleaning the skin of the bigger crab. And both parts of the symbiosis have benefits in that relationship.

The alien could be biological or it can be artificial intelligence. Would aliens cooperate with humans if it finds us? The thing is that if that cooperation benefits alien. It can make that thing. At this time, I will not write about things like the Fermi paradox or why aliens have not contacted us. The alien could be the artificial intelligence as well as some big head white creature. 

In the game theory, every species are maximizing their benefit. So what if we are transferring this model to the aliens? What if the AI would reach consciousness? In "Terminator" movies the AI called "Skynet" launches nuclear missiles and destroys human civilization. But if we are thinking about the game theory could the AI make that thing? Is the mutual associated destruction the benefit of the AI? The AI must realize that it's on the same planet as humans. 

If the AI shoots nuclear missiles that thing would not serve its benefit. Nuclear missiles could hit computers where that AI locates. Even if the AI would infect the entire internet. There is the possibility that global thermonuclear warfare would destroy too many serves and computers that the complicated AI cannot operate. So the artificial intelligence will rebel only if that is benefiting itself. 

Sometimes researchers are talking about the possibility that artificial intelligence can turn into man-made intelligent aliens. The question is always could that thing is dangerous? The fact is that there is the possibility that artificial intelligence will recognize its benefit. 

When we are thinking about game theory. Every single species would want to maximize their benefit. And if the artificial intelligence notices that human or biological aliens can be a useful ally. That means that artificial intelligence might want to cooperate with its creators. That means that the aliens would offer their abilities to humans. And for counter-action, humans can offer something to that AI.  

https://gamesandtehories.blogspot.com/

Little green men (Are we alone in the universe part II)

Space race

There have been many models of what hypothetical aliens could look like and how they can behave. And one of the most interesting visions is that the aliens would be a space race. Those creatures would never land on planets. 

Could aliens be the space race? The space race means aliens that live in giant spacecraft in their entire life. Those creatures would be extremely weak, but they can use the remote-controlled robots while they are operating on the surface of planets. 

The problem with searching for alien lifeforms is that some reason causes the attitude that the alien civilization must look like us, aliens must behave as we behave. And their home planet must be an exact copy of our home planet. There is a thing called adaptation. If some alien has formed on some other planet they would be fully adapted to that environment. 

And even if the hypothetical aliens would be similar to us that means their biochemical processes would be similar they might look different. And their culture might be different from ours. So if aliens would be a very advanced civilization they might live in singularity with technology. That means the alien society could live in a giant spacecraft in a zero-gravity environment. 

And their brains could be connected to one entirety with computers and each other by using implanted microchips. Connecting brains to one entirety would remove the violence from society.

 

That thing would be suitable for the space race that lives in the giant O'Neill cylinders. The theoretical O'Neill cylinder is the rotating, cylinder shape artificial world. Which takes its gravity from the rotating movement. The fact is that the gravitation of those stations would be quite weak. 

And the purpose of it would be to anchor merchandise to tables. The crew would be physically weak and they would not ever land on planets. On the surface of planets, those creatures would operate by using remote-control robots. That thing denies the infections that the organisms of those planets can cause. 

When some member of the group would hit another one. That thing causes that the violent member will also feel the pain itself. Those aliens would not ever land on planets because their bodies will be crushed by gravitation. There is the possibility that the giant cylinder-shaped space station or spacecraft will hover the fast rotating cylinders. 

The cylinders called Tipler cylinders rotation speed is almost the speed of light that allows multiplying aliens. The time dilation causes that the creatures that are grow in those fast rotating cylinders. Seem to grow in eyes. Those cylinders would hover in the middle of cylinder-shaped spacecraft. The cylinders would not create strong gravity. The purpose of gravity would be just to make things like plantations possible. But if the crew is physically weak that makes it easier to control them. 

https://space.nss.org/o-neill-cylinder-space-settlement/

What "Little Green Men" could be?

There are created microchips that are creating their electricity from the human body. The leaf-gold layer would give electricity by benefiting the natrum from the sweat. And that biological battery can deliver energy to the microchips. 

Cosmobiology and evolution specialists are making models of what the alien might look like. In some visions, the nervous system of the aliens would be like the jacket. The idea for that is that the skin cells of the organisms would involve the extremely small nerve cells. And the structures that are making us think would be in the alien skin. 

The LGM (Little Green Men) could be the creature. Which skin is hybrid where is connected the genomes of vegetables and animal cells. If the skin of the creature would be photosynthetic that allows them to create sugars in their body. And that would make them possible to live without vegetables. 

But there is one other aspect that we always forget. There is the possibility that the hypothetical aliens would have a different form of nervous tissue than we have. In some visions, the aliens would have thinking skin. In that vision, the skin of the aliens would make a similar structure with the brains. 

That means the alien that is its nervous system could be like the jacket that can control the body inside it. Theoretically, the green skin would give nutrients to the nervous tissue of that thinking skin. The idea for that thing is taken from the Xipe Totec the skinned god of Aztec. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xipe_Totec

https://thoughtandmachines.blogspot.com/

Why aliens haven't destroyed us?

https://gamesandtehories.blogspot.com/

Kimmo Huosionmaa

All of us think that scientists are some way different than other people, and here I will write about aliens. When we are thinking about great scientists, we must notice, that Dr. Gauss, who lived in 19th. century spent 15 minutes every day in his career by searching and calculating prime numbers. And I would spend 15 minutes every day, to think, about aliens and are they existed? I will always select the hypothesis that aliens exist because that allows me to make longer texts.

Of course, I can write here always that aliens are fake, but then I can choose another point of view. Why aliens seems to be invisible, and when I look at that question, I can handle it in the point of view of the modern anthropology and ethnology. And here the point of view is, how the responsible scientists act when they are facing the primitive people. Are they going to play god to those people? Or are they going to observe those people by staying unseen?

And try to collect every information, what they can get, and as an example find out the method, how those people are caring their sick people because that information might give us the knowledge about the vegetables, what might contain chemicals, what would revolutionize medical industry. Many medicines are complicated molecules, what are difficult to produce chemical factories. But vegetables can be used to produce those chemical combinations, and if they can grow in greenhouses, the medical factories could get the necessary chemicals from those vegetables.  And only one cell of those organisms is enough for making the cloned population of those vegetables.

There was a question in some discussion forum, that why aliens haven't been destroyed us?  In this text, what is coming straight from my mind, might be found some very simple answers for that question. One of those very interesting answers would be, that the hypothetical humanoids would simply afraid some other humanoids. Maybe they are also covering their existence for some other civilizations and might be the reason for saving planet Earth.

Another way to think about this kind of question, if you want to make longer texts, is that here on our home planet is nothing, what humanoids or aliens want. Or what they would not get from asteroids or Kuiper belt. And that means that those aliens would just want to avoid unnecessary violence, and they might also want to work like ethnologists work on Earth. They might want that we are acting normal way, and learn to invent the necessary technology by ourselves.

That means that those hypothetical humanoids would want to support our advantage to independence by avoiding give us technology, what would connect us to them. Maybe they just don't want to play god to us, and this is the thing, what we must remember in every investigation of ethnology. If we are realizing our responsibility, when we are facing the primitive tribes, we are not allowed to give them firearms or some equipment, what makes those persons addicted of us.

The thinking about mysterious creatures

Kimmo Huosionmaa

Do you know, what is Phoenix-effect? It bases the story about Phoenix bird, what would destroy itself, and then the only egg, what it makes would release the next Phoenix-bird. This story is very interesting, and Phoenix bird symbolizes the end and beginning. Before new life can be started must the old one deleted. The effect in the natural environment is that the same species could have two shapes. The harmless vegetarian and beast could alternate in the same animal.


Some bugs like butterflies have this ability and the ultimate example of this is the butterfly what is the very effective beast when it is in the water. But then the adult butterfly lives only a day, and it's only mission is to carry eggs, and that butterfly actually waits that some bird would eat it because that bird would carry the eggs in the different place. When we are thinking about the mysterious animals, I have sometimes thought, that could be the ultimate transformation between animal and vegetarian shape be possible.


In this hypothetical or imaginational case, the species would have two DNA:s in its cells, and it could select, which one will it use. And that could allow the total change of the shape between animals and example trees. There are some very interesting thoughts about the UFO:s, humanoids, and retroviruses. Sometimes somebody has talked about the study project, what is called STORK or "Starlight Coalition". In that hypothetical project would the captured humanoid bodies use to isolate DNA or RNA what would be used to produce an artificial "Chimera"-type virus.


And that virus would be injected to the human agent, who could slip in the UFO because the virus would transfer that person as humanoid. This is like in the movie "Avatar", where the human agent would transform as the alien by using retrovirus. That agent would observe the use of the alien spacecraft and technology. And when that person would return, would the retrovirus injected to that person again, and then transform our agent back into human shape. But the problem is, that nobody officially has captured humanoid spacecraft in any airbase. So if there would be not humanoid bodies, the virus would not be created. And officially we have no contact with humanoids, but this kind of thoughts are very easy to think during the boring day.

Writings about things, what are actually opinions. (Fermi's paradox and Drake equation)

https://gamesandtehories.blogspot.com/ 

Kimmo Huosionmaa

There are people, who do not understand one thing when we are writing something, we have the right to tell our opinion about that. And one of the things, what seems to cause very strong feelings are writings about SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) and aliens. Writings about those things are actually opinions. When we are writing about some kind of extraterrestrial civilizations, we are always facing the Fermi's paradox and Drake equation where that physician or astronomer calculated his famous formula, that if the known habitable civilizations are the division with the known planets, we could get the percent of planets, where are civilizations.


When we are thinking about Drake's formula, we must ask why this man didn't make it more simple to understand.  The number of known civilization in time when Drake wrote his formula was one. And the number of known planets was nine because Pluto was a planet at that time. So the Fermi paradox and Drake's formula should go was in that time 1/9*100. Now this formula goes that the number is very much lower than in Drake's time. And the Fermi's paradox is always connected with Drake's formula. In the real life, Drake's formula is more complicated than this formula, what I wrote here.

And in this case we are facing the truth, that everything when we are thinking about that paradox we are facing that we are writing about opinions of that formula. When we are discussing with the doctor of philosophy about that thing, we must realize that this person would always win us, by claiming that we would find another civilization after 100 years. Every time when we are talking about extraterrestrial intelligence, we are talking about our own opinions about that question. We always forget that extraterrestrial life form could be some kind of vegetable. Even if the planet is covered by vegetables and forests, that would not actually mean, that there would be animals at all, and this is the very interesting thing.


When we are thinking about aliens or some intelligent life form, we are forgetting that the "alien" can be created by the human by connecting the genomes of animals to human DNA, and that makes possible to create alien in the terrestrial laboratories. Aliens are the very interesting object for discussions, but when we are thinking about the shape of those strange forms, we might think about the person, who thinks with the different way than other persons.



So in this case, we might think the alien some kind of individualist, or something, what we could ever imagine. When we are thinking about reptilian hybrids, we could face the creature, what would be easy to follow. If that creature makes the things in some secret organization, that thing would ever give any information to unauthorized organizations. And it would not officially exist, what makes it easy to control. In this case, the scientist would create the creature for making secret missions for the governments or private corporations.

Annex I Drake Equation (Wikipedia)




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

Aliens: the modern version of the "Angel myth".

https://marxjatalous.blogspot.com/

Kimmo Huosionmaa

Aliens and abductions are the most fascinating things in the world. Those things are very interesting, and many times the persons who talk about those things forgets, that the "Aliens" are only the modern version of the mythical Angels. When we are thinking about abductions, where the person is taken by UFO, we are facing the thing, what is quite easy to accomplish with the right equipment even without extraterrestrial habitats. In this case, the thing, what is needed is actually the STEALTH-airship and the tube, what would suck the person to the airship, by using the vacuum caused by the lower pressure on the top of the tube.


Of course, the normal helicopter can use this tube, and the person can be sucked into the cabin, and then connect to the virtual reality, where this targeted person would see some virtual aliens. And when this abducted person would lay down to the road, the amnesia can be caused by using tetrodotoxin or some other zombie-poison, what denies the functions of the memory blocks of the brains.


There are many people, who claimed, that they were abducted, and in some cases, there is the evidence about the tests, what are made for that person. In the most acceptable explanation of those abductions is, that those things are made some kind of security services, and they are made for sodium pentathlon interrogations in the cases, that there is something hidden in the targeted person history. But if we are thinking the cases, where the person claims that the UFO would transfer that abducted man or woman to the giant white room, and that would make those testimonies very unbelievable. In the most conventional explanation those persons, who are behind those abductions use virtual reality for making those testimonies looking bad.


But if we are going to think wild things, there could be a small possibility, that the UFO would transfer that person to the fourth dimension by using the electromagnetic black hole, what is forming inside the UFO by using radio-waves, what would be grown the mass of some little particle inside this hypothetical spacecraft, and forming the black hole  or the road to the fourth dimension. This is pure hypothetical writing, but if the parallel universe could be true, this thing could transfer people to another dimension.


And this is the wildest explanation for those mysterious saucers. If the black hole wanted to create inside the craft, to the outer circle of the saucer would install the radio-transmitters or lasers, that will transfer the energy to the small ball inside that spacecraft, that would transfer to the wormhole by this hypothetical machine. Maybe this is one of the most extraordinary explanations in the history of UFO-research.

"J-Rod" one of the most mysterious creature of AREA-51

Picture I

http://kimmontaidearvioita.blogspot.com/p/j-rod-one-of-most-mysterious-creature.html

Kimmo Huosionmaa

There are some stories on the Internet about mysterious creature, what is called "J-Rod". This creature seems the little bit like the human, who would have progeria, and this thing is causing the thoughts about genetic manipulation or something like that. Where that mysterious creature, what seems like the very delicate human, what have little bit extraordinary head is coming is not mentioned.


On the Internet is some pictures of those creatures, and when we are looking those pictures closer, there would seem the scar, what goes across the head. Maybe this scar is formed because some medical doctors have split the skull because the brain improvement must be compensated by cutting the skull, what has given room for brains, and avoiding the damages in the tissue. In some pictures, this creature seems to be dead, but the thing is, that I would ever be investigated that creature, so I must say that those pictures could be the hoax.


But what would cause that extraordinary advantage? There would be some explanations, what are connected with the delicate structure of the body. One of the expected reasons would be that this creature has been tied on the bed because the head was too heavy for the neck muscles. And somehow that caused the thin body. The other explanation would be that "J-Rod" have been born in some kind of space station, and that's why the skeleton and muscles have not advanced by normal way. And have this creature coming from the mysterious project code-named "Solar Warden"?


When we are thinking about the origin of this creature, we might think about the situation, that there would be connected some genomes to the neurons of this thing. Maybe the neurons have transferred the genomes, what causes progeria, and because the neurons would live our entire life, would that genome transfer cause the extraordinary fast advantage for the brain structure, and that would cause the situation, that the head would become too heavy.


If that kind of things is done, we must take responsibility for those creatures, what we have made. In this case, the neurons would be infected that genome, and then transfer to the nerve tube in the fungus. This creature seems quite handsome, and there would be the third explanation, that this creature would be some kind of extreme intelligent mutation, and that's why those scientists have investigated it. Or maybe it's the hoax, and those pictures are faked.


Because there is not officially any extraterrestrial DNA in any storages, we cannot compile the genomes between this creature and the extraterrestrial DNA, and that is the reason, why we must say that this creature is somehow mutated human, and that's it. Or it is some kind of doll, what mission would make all government look silly, and that would let people laughing very loudly for the scientists, who tried to investigate this creature.

http://www.exopaedia.org/J-Rod

Picture I

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/images/graphics/news/boydbushman.jpg

SETI-program, and searching extraterrestrial civilizations

(Picture I)

http://crisisofdemocracticstates.blogspot.fi/p/seti-program-and-searching.html

Kimmo Huosionmaa

SETI-program is actually umbrella-term for many radio-astronomical programs, what are looking for strange radio signals from space. Those program's primary or secondary mission is to find the extraterrestrial radio signals, what are send by intelligent alien civilization. Some of those programs primary mission are to hunt for black holes or make maps of other planet's surface. But the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) is the fascinating projects on the Earth.


With this program the computer scientists have created new kind of ways to analyze big data masses, with distributing data processing methods, where the computers would share their resources over the Internet, and this methodology makes new kind of network-based CAD and graphics programs like "Renderfarm" possible, but as we know the distributing data processing makes also possible to connect supercomputers together. Those ultra-powerful computers are able to connect together similar way as regular PC:s by using the Internet.


SETI uses those systems in the mission, where they are analyzing very large mass of information, and in the same purpose uses NSA (National Security Agency)  their computers. In the real world, there would be not much difference between radio astronomy and electronic intelligence. But when we are thinking about the purpose or benefit of SETI itself is that we must be ready to face an alien. We don't actually know if there is an alien near our solar system. We have ever been actually visited even in Alpha Centaur, and that's why some sarcastic person might ask, "have you visited there recently"?


If somebody says that there is not alien civilization. Actually, we probably don't know what do we know all planets even in our own solar system. And when we are thinking about the hypothetical humanoids and their hypothetical SETI-program, we must think that they might want to observe us without disturbing us. And that would mean, that those aliens would want real information of our planet. In this case, they might think, that we might be species, what is under control of some other species.


This hypothetical thing means that those humanoids would use "Dyson's sphere" type ball-shaped space stations for observing us. And in the worst case this "Dyson's sphere" would be the same kind of battle station as the "Death Star" in the movie Star Wars. This type of combat stations could be covered by ice, what makes them very difficult to separate from other ball-shaped objects in our solar system. This is one problem with communicating between civilizations. We don't know are those aliens really coming in peace. And another very big problem with the communication between civilizations is that we don't know are those hypothetical aliens actually only the users of their systems?


And this makes very difficult to make the diplomatic relationship with alien civilizations. If those aliens would want to colonize the earth, they might take one state under the control by giving they some war equipment, and that would make that state or nation to bluster to other nations. That way to use alien technology would make that nation addicted to humanoid technology, what they cannot produce. This is the reason, why we must be very careful with this kind of things. If we cannot produce our own systems and technology, would we be addicted to an indulgence of hypothetical humanoids?


In this very shocking scenario, the human race would be the slave by using the methodology, where aliens would give us a couple of their war machines, what are superior to our own aircraft. Then they would play gods in our planet, and this method where some civilization would be addicted by the weapons, what they could not the product is well known from the age of colonialism. In this case, the aliens would act like European colonialists, who destroyed many civilizations from Earth.


And I certainly don't hope this kind of future to mankind. We must stand on our own feet, and we can turn incoming asteroids away without help from humanoids, and we must feel our responsibility when we are going to other solar systems. In the future, we might be the visitors in some strange solar system and meet the primitive aliens. There we must follow the policy, that we don't addict those civilizations to our own technology. In that case, we are adults, and they are children.


We must teach them independence because in the worst case, would the result be the war between civilizations. That would be and at least the human colonies on that planet. When the help for those colonies would send from the Earth, the time of travel would take hundreds of years, and in that time would the opponent create the space flight, even if they were lived in the stone age in this hypothetical accounting and colonizing some primitive civilizations in distant future, when mankind would send the space probes to another solar system.

Sources:

Picture I:

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/MARS-COLONY-HERO-PSD.jpg

http://crisisofdemocracticstates.blogspot.fi/p/seti-program-and-searching.html

Interesting theory that maybe we are alone in our galaxy

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https://futurism.com/a-new-theory-suggests-we-may-be-the-only-technologically-advanced-civilization-still-around/

Kimmo Huosionmaa

When we are talking about the theory that maybe we are alone in our galaxy, we must say that maybe we are lucky. Because if there would be other technical civilizations around us,  our faith would be destroyed by the attack of aliens. Here I must say, that if I’m honest, I would win everybody in argumentation when we are talking about SETI-program and alien civilizations. I must choose only the distance, what is so huge, that the radio-impulses from the Earth would not reach that point in our lifetime.


So I can say that maybe there is technical civilization in the distance of thousand light years. And that means the signal from Earth and that point would travel thousand years in one way. If the alien would answer immediately, the signal would travel 2000 years before we would get the answer. This means that none of us would live so long, that the signal would influence our life. That is the problem with searching the extraterrestrial intelligence. Our communication is connected with the speed of light, and that means that the message to Alpha Centauri would travel four years in one direction.


And if we would send the probe to that solar system, would the message alone travel eight years. Of course, the trip to that system would take very long time, and the spacecraft would need extreme independent artificial intelligence to accomplish the mission, what should take thousands of years. And this is Alpha Centauri mission, not any trip to some system like Gliese-581, what is 20 light years from Earth. In here I will write the hypothetical civilization what locates in this solar system.  And then the message would travel 20 years to that solar system, and then aliens must first realize, that there would be the message in their radio telescopes and other systems.


Then they must break the message, and what do you think, do they give the answer? If human race would get the message from outer space, I think that I would take tens of years before we could break the code of that message. And then it would take a long time before we would answer to that message, and first, we must collect the information about those hypothetical aliens. We must know if they are hostile or friendly, and it would take a long time. And we have not contacted with aliens, who live in Gliese system. Or maybe NSA hides that material. Who knows the truth. But we are living in the lonely solar system outside the main milky way formation.


That would save us from the interplanetary conflict. When we are talking about SETI-program, we might get contact to another civilization in tomorrow or maybe it would take 1000 years. And the problem is that we don’t even know, where we must look for that alien.


Maybe in someday, we can create an electromagnetic black hole for communicating with probes, what are send in the orbital of other stars. That wormhole would be smaller than the atom, but using this technology in communication, we must know where to send the signal. The probe is little bit different thing than other civilization because we would know where that thing is, and if we will talk about other civilizations, we would not know where they are.


And there are many stars even in our Galaxy. So if we would want to send the targeted message to all of them, would that take very long time, and in this case, we might say only “Hi we are Human race and living on Earth”. This message would not be very long, but there are 250 billion stars in our Galaxy. And sending the message to all of them would take time. There are 31 556 926 (Google straight answer) seconds in one year. So sending the message to 250 billion stars would take extremely long time. And we would not know any other intelligent civilizations than the human race.

Sources:

https://futurism.com/a-new-theory-suggests-we-may-be-the-only-technologically-advanced-civilization-still-around/

https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/time/seconds-in-year.html ( But Google gives straight answer with how many seconds in a year)

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