Do trees have feelings? Probably not.

    Do trees have feelings? Probably not. 

The plant intelligence is a fascinating thing. But when we are talking about plant intelligence and the ability to exchange information, that doesn't mean that plants can think or have feelings. The ability to exchange information between individuals doesn't mean that those individuals can think. If trees or other plants can exchange primitive information using pheromones like enough water, that doesn't mean that trees are talking to us. 

This information can be simple. If some trees send lots of pheromones they are at a suitable place. The number of pollen determines which side the other tree makes its inflorescence. When we cut some plants, that creature makes lots of flowers. And the reason for that could be that water flow in its cells ends. And to guarantee that its genomes will transfer to other plants that cut plant creates lots of flowers. But that thing doesn't mean that those plants have feelings. 

"Researchers scrutinized claims made in two popular books about trees having human-like traits and emotions. Published in Trends in Plant Science, their findings challenge many of these claims as unscientific. They caution against anthropomorphizing plants and highlight issues like the flawed “mother tree concept” and the dangers of making decisions based on appealing but inaccurate narratives, especially in the context of climate change adaptation". (ScitechDaily.com/Scientists Debunk the Myth: Do Trees Really Have Feelings?)

The trap of a Venus fly trap, showing trigger hairs.

If we think of cases where the plant can send different chemicals in the case of fire and if some bugs are eating them. That thing can tell that there are different chemical information transporters in cambium or leaves. Fire releases different chemicals than a bug that eats the leaves. That thing can make it possible for trees can exchange information. 

But those actions like pumping more water into trees are reflexes if they exist. Same way flytraps are eating bugs by closing their leaves. The Venus flytrap can move its leaves very fast. But that vegetable is not intelligent. The Venus flytrap plays butterfly when it cheats bugs to sit on its leaves. And even if that vegetable is a beast, it will not be intelligent. 

https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-debunk-the-myth-do-trees-really-have-feelings/

About plants and intelligence part II

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We are all seen the phenomenon, there are two plants, where another makes flowers and another not, would the explanation very simple. Maybe the other plant has been in the shadow, or it would not get enough carbon dioxide, and that's why it would not make flowers. But there is another natural explanation, and that is the pheromones, what is traveling across the air. Pheromones are an interesting thing because they can create feelings of fear or love in the people mind.


Maybe those pheromones are telling, that another plant is making flowers, and that's why the other one would not have to do those things because the genome transfer to next generation is protected. Old people sometimes say that the other plant would mope. There are rumors, that there have been attempts to create intelligent flowers or trees by transferring the genomes of the neurons to the plants for making intelligent plants. In the most interesting ideas, those intelligent plants could store information, what they collect from the senses, that are created by using genetic manipulation, and then that information could be read by using some electric or chemical instruments. That can be used in various sensors and intelligence systems. And who would suspect that the bush at the yard is transformed as the biosensor?


That would allow creating the vegetables, what creates the poison only when the bugs or other animals, what can damage it are in place. But when we are going back to the forest, we see the plants what leaf seems like cat's or snake's eyes. That form has caused the thoughts, that maybe those plants would recognize the shape of animals and humans. In that case, those philosophers would argue their opinions with the shape of the leaf, and maybe that would feel quite creepy.


But in some cases, people have felt some kind of fear in the forest, and maybe that is caused by some kind of overload of the central nervous system. Some other people believe that plants would create pheromones, what cause the fear because human have been disturbed something. If we humans could smell pheromones, we could read people mind. But this writing is pure thinking about the things, what we maybe not ever understand.


Pheromones can be used in the modern narcotics therapy because if those things are connected to drugs, would them cause fear, and also riots and another kind of violent actions can be controlled by using pheromones. And also pheromones can be used as a non-lethal chemical agent in the battlefield. That chemicals can cause fear in the mind of the enemy, and make them operations impossible. They can be used in the interrogations for psychological extortion. So that makes pheromones dangerous.

The plant intelligence, and the abilities, what it can give to us

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There are scientists, who believe that plants have some kind of intelligence, and they would communicate with the similar chemicals what neurons use to communicate together. In this scenario, the plants would change information about the threats. The problem with that communication is, that it happens with chemicals, what makes difficult to translate it. But if we sometimes can do that, would that open change to make extraordinary and more sophisticated sensors, what the human could ever imagine.


Those systems could probably communicate someday with plants, and use them as biosensors. The proof about this communication would be that sometimes we have heard that the plants would grow better if the people talks to them. In that case, for the growing plants can give the very natural explanation. They grow better because of the carbon dioxide, what comes from the mouth of the speaker would stimulate the photosynthesis and forming the sugars.


But when we are thinking about the forming of the chemicals, what the plants are using to communicate, I didn't find any information about that. In fact, there is very little information about the communication between plants, but if the chemical communication system would be true, that thing could revolutionize the information technology, and open the road to the most awesome method to make extremely high powerful computer system. In this system, the computer would communicate with those plants, like corn by using chemical communication, what bases the synthetic arbiter chemical.


In this communication, the computer would be connected to the similar gas detectors, what are using in the chemical warfare protective systems. And in theory, the similar system can allow that the computer could communicate with those plants. But if we would put this system in practice, we must open that chemical communication code, and then we could create two layer computer system. The upper layer would be the computer, what could be used for so-called fast computing, but the downed layer, where the plants are can be used as the slow computing. But when we want to create this kind of computing system, with intelligent corn Plantagenet.


And if we could communicate with plants, we could create the warning system, what can detect any threat in the world. When scientists would try to break the chemical messages between plants, they use the methodology, where the plants are damaged, and then the detector would be used to analyze those chemicals, what are released in that process. If the chemical code can be open, that thing can be used to create the biological warning systems. In some theories, the plants can identify the threat, what is facing them.


Those things might be the technology of tomorrow, where the plants and animals can communicate with people when there would be computerized decoders with loudspeakers and some parts of the animal communication can be emulated by the human. In those cases, the signals of the animals like orcas are recorded, and the sensors will follow the behavior of those whales. That makes possible to communicate with animals, and in some cases give them some orders.


If after some signal the group would start to flee, that signal can play them if there is some kind of volcano eruption on the bottom of the sea, that the group must flee the area. And maybe in some day some of those animals can equip with EEG-transmitters, what would follow the actions on brain core and then the scientists can compile those signals with the behavior of that animal. That can open us the gate to the world of the animals and give us the new way to communicate with them.